Re: Re: Attribution is not required in public domain materials

I doubt that much of, or many of, a person's thoughts are unique. They may be uniquely arranged, ordered, coded, but not themselves "unique". If they were unique, one and only one person would have the same thought and few if any would be able to follow the thoughts of others.

Thoughts are transitory, generally not completely reproducible, composed of bits of knowledge, delivered by biological processing, in response to, or to test, or to request a response from the environment.

Knowledge is discovered reality and thoughts describe an understanding of that reality at a moment in time. Thoughts are the solution to the derivatives of the interrelationships between time and knowledge and environment.

But it is just this fixed point, captured at time x, from enviornment y, by person m, which remains unique. Thoughts are expressions of reality. Ideas are linked thoughts which describe a point or a space on one or more relationship graphs In my opinion its the idea, not its first tangible expression, which should be protected by copyright. The unrecoverable uniqueness is to be found in the idea.

sterling

On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Katharine Colgan wrote:

>
> A human being's thinking is made up from all the ideas and influences it has
> ever encountered, which is then transformed into that person's unique
> thoughts. I studied Ancient Greek. It would obviously be absurd to credit
> Socrates, Euripides, or Sappho for every idea I have on philosophy, society,
> religion, or poetry.
>
> I do not copy other people's language. I quote other people's language, with
> attribution.
>
> >>You have 70 years (more than 25,000 days) after death to
> >>control the attribution. Is that enough?
>
> No.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CNI-COPYRIGHT -- Copyright & Intellectual Property
> [mailto:CNI-COPYRIGHT[_at_]cni.org]On Behalf Of Joseph Pietro Riolo
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 10:52 AM
> To: CNI-COPYRIGHT -- Copyright & Intellectual Property
> Subject: [CNI-(C)] Re: Attribution is not required in public domain
> materials
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Katharine Colgan <katecolgan[_at_]comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > I am a writer. I would never consider using someone else's ideas or
> > words--whether in the public domain or not--without attribution. I would
> > feel intellectually dishonest, morally dishonest, and like a pathetic
> writer
> > not capable of doing my own work without stealing from others.
>
> Without seeing your works, I am not in any position to verify
> your statements. However, there is a good chance that you
> do not provide attribution for some ideas, facts, and
> expressions that you think do not require attribution.
> Yet, others think that you should provide attribution for
> these items that you copy.
>
>
> > Also speaking as a writer, I assure you that I want credit for stuff of
> mine
> > worth using long after I'm dead.
>
> You have 70 years (more than 25,000 days) after death to
> control the attribution. Is that enough?
>
>
> Joseph Pietro Riolo
> <riolo[_at_]voicenet.com>
> http://www.boycottcopyright.com
>
> Number of days left until 1-1-2019 when all knowledge of 1923
> in the land of the U.S.A. will be freed from their copyright
> owners' prisons: 5,680
>
> Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this
> post in the public domain.
>
>
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