RE: Re: copyright infringement of silence

From: Paul Jones <pjones[_at_]pauljones.ca>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:18:00 -0500

In my memory I do not think that it is correct to call recorded silence. The point of Cage's piece was to have the audience focus on the nature of a performance by being aware of its absence. So what was recorded was the small still sounds of an audience in contemplation. We may call such absence of a musical performance "silence", but there were sounds recorded.

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From: CNI-COPYRIGHT -- Copyright & Intellectual Property [mailto:CNI-COPYRIGHT[_at_]cni.org] On Behalf Of Terry Carroll Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:45 PM To: CNI-COPYRIGHT -- Copyright & Intellectual Property Subject: [CNI-(C)] Re: copyright infringement of silence

I used this as the basis for a question on my final exam a couple of years ago. About half the class totally missed the issue of whether recorded silence is subject to copyright.

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Schafer, Richard wrote:

> There was a UK case that involved silence. The publishers of John
> Cage's silent composition 4'33" accused Mike Batt, the man behind the
> Wombles, of plagiarism and copyright violation for a track called "A
> Minute's Silence" on his "Classical Graffiti" album. Although he argued
> that his silence was original, not a quotation from Cage's silence, the
> case settled out of court with the payment of a sum to the John Cage
> Trust.
>
> (See
> http://news.openflows.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/01/1617243&mode=thread
> and http://legalminds.lp.findlaw.com/list/cyberia-l/msg41561.html).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CNI-COPYRIGHT -- Copyright & Intellectual Property
> [mailto:CNI-COPYRIGHT[_at_]cni.org] On Behalf Of Theodora Michaels
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 3:55 PM
> To: CNI-COPYRIGHT -- Copyright & Intellectual Property
> Subject: [CNI-(C)] copyright infringement of silence
>
>
> I thought these were interesting:
>
> http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=223
>
> http://www.5318008.co.uk/soundofsilence/
>
> Anyone care to speculate whether the copyright holders will complain?
> And would the complaint be valid?
>
> Thea
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