RE: Re: "University as author?"

I would think so. I was always of the impression that where and on what equipment the work was done was of minimal importance. One of the lawyers here said that if you write the great American novel at work, you own the copyright, but you can be fired for misuse of resources. The question isn't where you did it, it's whether it's part of your job to do it.

From: CNI-COPYRIGHT -- Copyright & Intellectual Property
[mailto:CNI-COPYRIGHT[_at_]cni.org] On Behalf Of Christine L. Sundt
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 4:55 PM
To: CNI-COPYRIGHT -- Copyright & Intellectual Property Subject: [CNI-(C)] Re: "University as author?"

In some fields (in the sciences, for example), work done for the university (research, writing) takes place on campus, during 'normal working hours', and using facilities and equipment provided by the university or grants gotten in the name of the university. In many others (humanities and arts for starters), work that ultimately leads to promotion and tenure takes place after teaching and committee work is finished, usually at home, in the middle of the night, using personal equipment. So can the university claim to own this work, too?  

Christine L. Sundt
Visual Resources Curator
University of Oregon
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Eugene, OR 97403-5239 - U.S.A.  

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From: CNI-COPYRIGHT -- Copyright & Intellectual Property
[mailto:CNI-COPYRIGHT[_at_]cni.org]On Behalf Of Steven Jamar
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 8:21 AM
To: CNI-COPYRIGHT -- Copyright & Intellectual Property Subject: [CNI-(C)] Re: "University as author?"    

On Aug 11, 2005, at 6:20 PM, Albert Henderson wrote:

on 11 Aug 2005 "Kevin Smith" <ksmith[_at_]defiance.edu> wrote:

The common law test for distinguishing between and employee and an independent contractor is relevant to the work made for hire argument only because it determines which of the two independent ways in which a work can be found to be a work for hire will apply.  

[snip]

The reference to 'independent subcontractor,' which might be an issue in taxation or
insurance, etc., has little bearing here.

So much learned writing stems from research clearly based in graduate and post-graduate work, such as PhD theses, it would be ridiculous to claim it as within the scope of later employment.  

That is not what "scope of employment" means in its gross sense. Is it part of your job to research and write? If so, then researching and writing is within the scope of your employment.  

If you created the work before you were en employee of the particular employer at issue, then, it is not within the scope because of when it was created, not because of what it is.  

Works must be fixed to be copyrighted. Fixation does not happen when you do the research or when you come up with ideas. It happens when it is fixed in a tangible medium of expression -- typed, or what-have-you.  

I am not talking here about what the rule should be or what the result ought to be as a matter of sense and fairness, but what the copyright act seems to provide.

Learned publishing is about the research, the process, and the skill, not so much the writing itself.  

But copyright is about the work, not about the ideas or the process of getting them.

Moreover, while the publication of research qualifies one for employment and tenure, it also must demonstrate originality and
independence.  

Well, I think this is a suspect description -- at least in legal scholarship, but in any event, this is not germane to the scope of employment issue.

Publishing in academe is of primary value. The well-published academic can presumably find employment, which is of secondary value, without too much trouble, taking with him the talent for attracting grants and students.  

I don't see the connection of this, even if true.

Best wishes,

Albert Henderson  

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