Brigid S. Delaney <wiredheart[_at_]hotmail.com> writes:
>
> On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, John H. Lederer <johnl[_at_]ibm.net> wrote:
> >
> > Would you like to take a stab at explicating why someone taking
> > something off the web violates copyright, but your repeating of the
> > entirety of Brigid's message does not?
> >
> > I really think that we made an error when we subcribed to the berne
> > convention and made the assumption that all material is "copyrighted".
> > Cleary the author does not intend that to be the case for some, and by
> > asserting that all is without notice, we merely end up with no way to
> > tell what it is wrong to copy and what it is not.
> >
> > Here in Wisconsin, we had for over a century a simple standard of
> > trespass. It was illegal to enter land that was posted or that was
> > fenced, but not illegal to enter open land. Recently the legislature
> > changed the statutes. Now the law suffers from constantly being
> > broken.
>
>
> John, your paragraph:
>
> > I really think that we made an error when we subcribed to the berne
> > convention and made the assumption that all material is
> > "copyrighted".
>
> I don't think that is correct - that *all* material is copyrighted.
> Everything which is of a copyrightable nature receives protection once
> fixed in permanent form. There are many exceptions, and the exceptions
> differ from country to country, but the default is that protection is
> given.
>
> Does this mean - everything a person puts down on paper or keys in and
> sends (on use-net, listserv, e-mail) is copyrighted?
In the way you mean it, yes, but wit hsome exceptions
> I just sent several people in my department information on an upcoming
> event through our Lotus Notes. Does this mean it is copyrighted?
Yes
> I think it gets confusing when it comes to e-mail and/or different forms
> of "written" communication. It does for me.
Where does the confusion arise?
> Could you indicate the specific text in the Berne Convention that
> remarks that "all material" is copyrighted? Is it all material by an
> author/artist? Or "all material" from just anyone? A five year old
> who crayons a picture?
'from just anyone'
-- David Swarbrick, Solicitor http://www.swarb.co.uk/swarbrick/ (office) 'a damn fine web-site' http://www.swarb.demon.co.uk/ (home) <david[_at_]swarb.demon.co.uk>Received on Wed Jul 15 1998 - 14:47:46 GMT
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